I found this just tonight and thought it was really good - most of it I'd read/thought of before, and most of you probably have too, but it's worth a read I think. :) [anti-shurtugal.andontie.net]

very good sue essay ^.^ and squeeeeee <33 Collete, best non sue ever!

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aaaannnndddd =( i have sues like wildflowers

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That which does not feel pain is dead.

Eragon DOES get less Mary Sue-ish as the story progresses.... :)


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Nice article!





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just so i dont keep cluttering up botb with random threads. *is guilty of shameless cluttering* what, in your opinion, defines a Sue?

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That which does not feel pain is dead.

Nothing very bad happens to them, and there are never negative consequences to their actions...? Something like that.

I don't think there's a single definition. I do think people tend to throw the term around too much nowadays; not every badly-written character is a Sue (though that doesn't mean they aren't annoying).

I'd clarify Ebby's comment. I've seen bad things happen to Sues. What I haven't seen is a Sue getting bad results from her own deliberate actions. Sues don't make mistakes.

That's something Limyaael hit on years ago and I think it's one of the best indicators ever--the character's perceptions are identical with objective reality.

The Sue might be hurt. But the Sue is never wrong.