lol. i wondered if that would start something.;)

i think he's talking about peer pressure, drugs etc...

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Frodo: I can't do this, Sam.

Sam: I know. It's all wrong. By rights we shouldn't even be here. But we are. It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger, they were. And sometimes you didn't want to know the end. Because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing, this shadow. Even darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you. That meant something, even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back, only they didn't. They kept going. Because they were holding on to something.

Frodo: What are we holding onto, Sam?

Sam: That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo... and it's worth fighting for.

No, it was an honest question. I had the feeling the answer would be something like that, though, which obliges me to ask: are all homeschoolers socially incompetent, unable to parse logic or science, and arrogant to a fault?

The answer, of course, is NO--these are extreme cases, and obviously these are problems that exist outside of the homeschooled population as well (I'm certainly guilty of the first and last point).

But we really shouldn't stereotype, dontcha think? :P

And it's not like homeschooling avoids "peer pressure", anyway; the "peers" just happen to be people who are related to you and/or involved in your church, your social programs, etc. There is still pressure to conform, and I'd argue that it's more insidious than it is in an outside-of-home school system--including private and parochial schools there.

If I may poke my head in--


As someone who has tasted both public school setting and homeschool, there is not as much pressure in the home as there is among school peers. There is also not the 'survival of the fittest' 'clique with the populars' atmosphere either.

When I am at home, it is far more easier to be myself. I can laugh, and say things without being afraid of getting ridiculed. And i don't have to worry about how skinny, or pretty, or well-dressed I am either.

I don't have to hear constant profanity as I do in school setting.

That's just my experience.:)

i have no idea if that was going to be his answer or not.:D I'm just guessing.

I agree that not all public schoolers are evil or something. :roll: But I think that whenever you get into a big school there are going to be a few bad kids who influence others and can make life miserable. sometimes it's just easier to stay away from that.;)

And it's not like homeschooling avoids "peer pressure", anyway; the "peers" just happen to be people who are related to you and/or involved in your church, your social programs, etc. There is still pressure to conform, and I'd argue that it's more insidious than it is in an outside-of-home school system--including private and parochial schools there.

interesting. what sort of insidious peer pressure do you think there is for homeschoolers?

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Frodo: I can't do this, Sam.

Sam: I know. It's all wrong. By rights we shouldn't even be here. But we are. It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger, they were. And sometimes you didn't want to know the end. Because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing, this shadow. Even darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you. That meant something, even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back, only they didn't. They kept going. Because they were holding on to something.

Frodo: What are we holding onto, Sam?

Sam: That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo... and it's worth fighting for.

I've been in public, private, and homeschooled. And i really meant it as the drama and crap you have to deal with at a public or pivate school. And you are very right there is peer pressure in homeschooling. I have a friend that got into drugs while they were being homeschooled. Just because you are homeschooled does not mean all the pressures are taken off you still have them.

I wasn't sterotyping I was more talking about the drama and stuff that is constant in a highschool. There isn't as much in a homeschooling setting, yes you do have drama, it's just not the same kind.

@ Meg: it may be easyer to stay away from all that as homeschooled child but eventually your going to have to deal with it, be it at college or in the workplace. one of the reasons the spartans were great warriors is because they trained since childhood.

and yeah diarcno agreed with the drama *sigh* but beleive me, just cause they're a year older doesnt mean you dont have drama in college >.<

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true. but I'm far more ready for drama, drugs, peer pressure now, than I would have been a couple years ago.

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Frodo: I can't do this, Sam.

Sam: I know. It's all wrong. By rights we shouldn't even be here. But we are. It's like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger, they were. And sometimes you didn't want to know the end. Because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad had happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing, this shadow. Even darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories that stayed with you. That meant something, even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now. Folk in those stories had lots of chances of turning back, only they didn't. They kept going. Because they were holding on to something.

Frodo: What are we holding onto, Sam?

Sam: That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo... and it's worth fighting for.

I've always been ready for it. Homeschooler wimps.

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Plus, people make drama, not settings. Drama is pure interpersonal BS.

If you're afraid to say something in person, in a classroom setting. That's your fault. You need to work on your character and realize that, at most, in 6 years, these people won't even remember you, or even matter. All that matters in the absolute best education; that is earned. You earn that by asking the question and looking like a freak.

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