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Re: Poll: Does Valzaan = Alazare?
Posted by: Falchion (IP Logged)
Date: April 27, 2008 01:07PM

Garin is a friend of Tal Kuvarin. In the fourth book, he helps Monias get to the army.

Re: Poll: Does Valzaan = Alazare?
Posted by: ocean cat (IP Logged)
Date: April 27, 2008 05:27PM

Ah, k. Thanks.

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Re: Poll: Does Valzaan = Alazare?
Posted by: Maximus Decimus Meridious (IP Logged)
Date: May 28, 2008 04:48PM

Okay I havnt read any post from the last 9 pages so I'll prob say stuff over again
I would have said no way but now that I think about I wouldnt be surprised if he is.
Also HIS STAFF! He has a bird on top of it could that be like a memorial for those that helped him?????

Re: Poll: Does Valzaan = Alazare?
Posted by: calvinandhobbes (IP Logged)
Date: May 31, 2008 11:10AM

yeah, i'd be surprised if he isn't, just because everything lines up over perfectly, and L.B. seems to like mirroring things before they actually happen (THink Joriaem being afraid of water here and Synoki with hammer and such)...

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Re: Poll: Does Valzaan = Alazare?
Posted by: Kale Allerion (IP Logged)
Date: June 1, 2008 05:03PM

I'm gonna hop on the fence too, but I'm leaning towards yes.

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Re: Poll: Does Valzaan = Alazare?
Posted by: mollie (IP Logged)
Date: June 3, 2008 12:02PM

No he can't be Alazare besides a titan wouldn't grow to look that old and it said in the book that Valzaan was tought by another prophet.

Re: Poll: Does Valzaan = Alazare?
Posted by: Mindarin (IP Logged)
Date: June 3, 2008 08:04PM

True, but what if Allfather gave him the body of a normal man? And a Titan would still need to be taught to be a prophet, wouldn't he?

Re: Poll: Does Valzaan = Alazare?
Posted by: calvinandhobbes (IP Logged)
Date: June 5, 2008 12:38PM

I know he was taught by another prophet, but i explain that away by explaining it like this.

Premise: Valzaan is Alazare

Objection to Premise: Why did Valzaan say he was trained by another prophet? Can a Servant of Allfather Lie?

Premise 2: No, a servant of Allfather can't lie

Premise 3: So Valzaan is telling the truth.

Objection to Premise 3: How is this possible

Premise 4: Valzaan WAS the first prophet, and then for some reason switched to a different human form. Maybe when he was reborn for some reason? Not sure...but if this is the case, then he isn't lying in a way. If Valzaan learned from the mistakes he made as that first prophet, then he learned from the first prophet in a way, and thus was taught by him...Tricky and whatnot, but possible...

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Re: Poll: Does Valzaan = Alazare?
Posted by: Sulmandir (IP Logged)
Date: June 5, 2008 01:04PM

hmmm thats a good thought calvin

Re: Poll: Does Valzaan = Alazare?
Posted by: calvinandhobbes (IP Logged)
Date: June 5, 2008 01:06PM

yeah, but i'm not sure i give L.B. enough credit to think that up...not sure... :)

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